Dont allow for negative comments from the internet dissuade you; .380 pistols are definitely viable concealed carry guns. This is far inferior to any adopted NATO pistol. The worst defense weapons are those still locked in the safe back home Despite its flaws, the Nagants robust design could take a beating, and served in almost every major conflict of the twentieth century. Option: pocket sized .25 ACP pistols. It now appears that the new Kalashnikov Concern PL-14 Lebedev is being considered for elite police units, since it is a more sleek and traditional design. The technical and shooting characteristics were found to be inferior to 9x17mm chambered versions of the Makarov, so the P-96S was a commercial bust and ended production in the late 1990s. Did you honestly just advocate a .25? For sure, the old Brownings are cool guns, I am glad you found one that works good. Best .380 Pistols Reviews 2020 Edition. If you feel that you need a high capacity carry gun, and dont mind the extra weight, thats fine. Here are some of the worst pistols that were designed or used by Russia, stretching from the imperial era to the current day. Charlie Gao studied political and computer science at Grinnell College and is a frequent commentator on defense and national-security issues. No. The rotary locking design of the original P-96 would continue on to become the GSh-18, an advanced pistol that has seen limited adoption with special units. The worst aspect of the Nagant, as anyone who shot one can probably tell you, is the extremely heavy trigger pull. The PYas most pressing issue is the frequency of jams and misfeeds. Can a .380 pistol save your life? Kermit- no doubt. Get all the news and updates from Gun Nuts in your email! , I have a Ruger New Vaquero 3 3/4 barrel stainless 45LC. It has avery low boreaxis and a locking system that avoids the Browning tilting barrel locking system in favor of one that moves straight back improving accuracy. But dozens of flawless rounds, amiright? Because remember, the average guy lives in the suburbs and drives a crossover or a pickup truck, and probably doesnt need to shoot a bear or a mountain lion in his backyard. They have all the drawbacks of a j-frame and none of the benefits. Theyre the size of a cinderblock. Just no. Considering 380 pistols were derided at first, these pistols are now becoming extremely popular. If you think I missed one, or you think Im off my rocker, let me know in the comments! Btw I blame Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man for people believing a single action revolver is a fighting gun. I like the little Ruger .380s just fine. I have a reliable-as-dirt .25. During those days, the .380 handguns are not as precise as todays .380 pistols. Notice the characteristic lack of grammar, or even the ability to make a simple coherent point. Any manufacturer can make a bad gun, whether one example or an entire model line. It could even be suppressed, a rarity among revolvers. You see, tiny guns get made in .380 ACP because it's the biggest small round out there; standard 9mm has too long and wide a case to make really small guns. Its a polymer frame and technical aspects allow the shooter to rapidly place shots on target. Read and decide which caliber fascinates you more as a gun carrier. It aint the way to bet. What it comes down to is this: it is compact, easy to handle and offers enough firepower to stop most threats. I like Deagles but does anyone CC them? Lets get real here for a second. Everyone has an inherent, human right to self-defense. I dont want to bet my life on cool engineering, you know? Here are some of the worst pistols that were designed or used by Russia, stretching from the imperial era to the current day. So youre saying that my Ruger Bearcat carry gun is a poor choice? The .380 Pocket Pistol has been among the most beloved firearms of the modern era for different reasons. The real point, though, is that the 9mm stopped the fight instantly, even if it was just mental stop. The classic Skim Until Offended is also prominently displayed. So because you saw unimpressive results once that means they apply to all .25s? The effect is devastating. I dont think you really missed a Type of firearm but definitely worth a mention is dont buy a hi-point. Beretta are a name to be reckoned with when it comes to the best 9mm pistol for home defense models. Anything made by Taurus is a bad choice.. While your PT111 G2 does have a better reliability track record that most Taurus products, unless thats the only pistol you own or can afford, why risk carrying a pistol from a manufacturer thats synonymous with poor design and reliability? The .380 semiautomatic handgun best embodies the trend: The guns feature grips smaller than an average persons palm, with frames less than an inch wide and barrels usually about two inches long. When we think of a pocket pistol now, most of us imagine a .380 like this Smith & Wesson Bodyguard. Aside from the horrendous DA pull, Ive found it to be a great small carry gun in the ppk vein. Accuracy sucks, and I dont carry it, but its as reliable as falling down when you trip. The P320 can be quickly converted to various calibers, including 9x19 mm, .40 S&W, .375 SIG, .380 ACP and .45 ACP. TheP-96was one of Russias first attempts to create aGlock-alike pistol. The stock trigger of the Strike One is reported to be inferior to striker fired pistols like the Walther PPQ, H&K VP9 or SIG P320. The final strike against the PYa is the guaranteed round count of the PYaonly 4000 rounds of ammunition. they replaced the hammer spring. Something like a concealed carry pistol. It also featured a polymer frame and was chambered in 9x19mm Parabellum. To its credit, the 5.45x18can effectively pierce soft body armor, something the standard issue 9x18mm Makarov cartridge cannot do. The P-96S is an adoption of the original design for the 9x17mm (.380 ACP) cartridge, so that it could be marketed to private security firms. Theres a pretty steep learning curve on SA revolvers, from loading to firing and unloading that makes them a poor choice as a primary defensive tool. In fact, I dont say carry a .32 or even carry a .380. I carry a 9mm, thats not -that- much bigger than the Keltec .32. Like my handguns used for self defense in my home and vehicles, they all wear Crimson Trace laser sights and depending on if it is a cold or hot season, they are loaded with either Federal Hydra-Shok or Hornady Critical Defense or Critical Duty ammunition. While inconsistent quality control may result in some pistols performing worse than others, jams and misfeeds are a consistent complaint. You forgot The Judge and all the asshat variations of it. I also know someone who was up and walking around after a .45 to the leg, with nothing worse than two bleeding holes and a charlie horse from the impact.. Caleb aint saying carry a .25. Hes saying .25 is better than .22, in an autoloader. If youve got a revolver, might as well carry .22, the ammos (still) cheaper. Of course, there are probably a hundred other options out there, and dozens of those could make this list, but these are the guns that have been tested and proven to be the best of the best and to function reliably in a defensive situation. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. What ever you got is no good unless you carry it. If you want a wheelgun, get a big DA wheelgun. Key Point: Russia is known for some great guns. If I was forced to carry only a .380 pocket pistol, this would be a top choice. While the Makarov and Tokarev are probably the most well known Russian pistols, the Russian Federation and the Soviet Union designed many more. Id actually get done with one of those if I didnt have any other option. Hard pass. What I recommended was that if someone is carrying a .22 LR pocket pistol, theyd be better off switching to a .25 ACP, because the recoil will be the same and the gun will be more reliable. From a 2 inch barrel, the terminal ballistics are basically the same between .25s and .22s, but small, pocketable .25 ACP pistols are going to be a lot more reliable. Cant go wrong with the power of a 125g 357 Mag. Pistols good enough for the US Military The US Marine Corps use the M9 series of pistols. It is safe to say it a decent gun since not mentioned? We'll cover what the round can do, things to consider in choosing a gun, ammo, and our top 5 picks of the best .380 pistols. I have a Taurus PT111 G2 thats every bit as reliable as my Sig P220 or CZ P-07. Just not as a primary. When was the last time you heard someone say man, that .22 is super reliable and they werent talking about a Ruger? TheArsenalis one of Russias newest pistols. I have Taurus in .22mag, 38 spec, 357 mag and 45ACP. I aint saying carry a .25 either. These flaws include, but are not limited to: THEY HAVE TERRIBLE TRIGGER PULLS.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. It was tricked out by a local, and highly respected, gunsmith. These are not my go-to choices but they are certainly viable and would spoil any bad guys day. The perfect gun does you no good if it is anywhere but in your hand. Options: Buy a Glock or an M&P, dont be a special snowflake. A few months ago in a jearby town a dude got shot with a 9mm hollopoint. From a 2 inch barrel, the terminal ballistics are basically the same between .25s and .22s, but small, pocketable .25 ACP pistols are going to be a lot more reliable. Part of the pistols design philosophy was to use its insanely high rate of fire (up to 1800 rpm) to land hits in close proximity to each other in order to achieve greater stopping power. Options: Buy a Glock or an M&P, dont be a special snowflake.. No thank you, especially when kel tec makes a .32 that works, hits harder and is essentially weightless. Have you tried the P64? Finding the Blue Book value of your new and used firearms, including pistols, rifles, shotguns, airguns, and blackpowder guns is easy with the number one source of gun pricing., john Obviously the problem persisted. M&P yes,glock,no. Those Taurus PT22s also have no extractor. It is also worth noting that his scattered and random approach to punctuation and capitalization is only matched by the scattered and random holes on his and his neighbors targets* during range trips. Just for the sake of being argumentative. This opinion is parroted by other publications, describing the Arsenals trigger as having a lot of grit or being mushy. At one point, the Strike One was rumored to have been elite Russian police units pistol of choice. The empty has to blow out when the slide cycles. I had a 39 I couldnt hit the side of a barn. I actually carried mine on occasion, like the NRA AM this year, because I had stupidly gotten rid of my Glock 19 for a S&W 66 that I didnt like very much. The .380 Pistols. Just not as a primary gun for the average dude. However, the earlier standard issue 7.62x25mm Tokarev can also penetrate soft body armorwhile imparting more energy on the target after penetration. A Russianspecial operatorhas expressed doubt that the PYa could have passed Soviet military standards, due to failures to fire and load, poor ergonomics and other issues. Personally, I favor revolvers. On that backstory, however, Glock is easily awarded the credit of popularizing this pistol format in the modern era and has benefitted greatly as a result. The *Makarov is better than a High-Point (smaller and sturdier) in the Under $200-$250 class- or most other cheap guns. I also have several Makarov caliber guns including a CZ82 which will stack up against any of the modern 380s. You could slot in the Too Big for a Proper .45, Too Small for a Proper Shotgun Judge under #3- Gimmick Guns. shot coke cans on the move with. Its a gun thats designed around features that dont make it better to shoot, easier to reload, or any actual feature that youd want to have in a defensive pistol. What ever you carry, you MUST PRACTICE with it using hand & eye coordination on a regular basis. Originally, handguns chambered in .380 ACP caused concern due to their lack of power when compared to their full-sized counterparts using larger cartridges. Derringers. It still doesnt hold much ammo, and its still tough to shoot, but it makes a better choice as a primary than a derringer. I agree, PG. I get that reading is hard. While the PYa may have overcome some of its reliability issues (this sourcestates that the 2008 production lot had major issues and later ones were fine), the questionable ergonomics and the limited guaranteed round count make it a poor pistol, albeit an improvement over the Makarov. works for me. To follow up our discussion about the merits of .380 ACP for concealed carry, in this installment of our Pocket Pistol Series, Im comparing six popular micro .380 pistols.Details are in the video below, or scroll down to read the full transcript. I sent it to the factory for repair. Sales for .380s have grown and more people are looking for the best models out there. Smith & Wesson pistols are available in a variety of calibers and sizes, so you're able to find the one that best suits your needs. I will swear by the P 145 millenium pro. The 5.45x18mm Soviet cartridge was primarily designed for the PSM, a very slim and concealable pistol that was primarily used by undercover police and high ranking officers who wanted a pistol that weighed very little. I can tell you a .25 is the only gunshot I have ever seen where the victim drove himself to the hospital. Whats your thoughts on the CZ-82/83? But as a primary? I used to carry a Smith Model 39 and 4 mags. I know Im going to catch flak for this,but I used to carry many years ago a Jennings J-22.Never had a feed or misfire issue with it using CCI mini mags.As long as the gun was cleaned every 150 rounds. Introducing a .380 pistol. The three test pistols, (top to bottom): Glock 42, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard, and Ruger LCP. If you're curious as to why, I reread an article from many years ago recently from a fellow Ohioan named Greg Ellifritz who was inspired by Massad Ayoob to compile extensive data about shootings over a 10-year period.